Courtesy of good friend of Beams & Struts Tim Walker, comes a fascinating dialogue between Terry Patten and Thomas Hubl.  

Terry Patten is one of the authors of the Integral Life Practice book (highly recommended).  Thomas Hubl is a spiritual teacher from Germany (his website in English is here).  I had not heard of him prior to this dialog.  

I was deeply impressed with the level of dialog between these gracious men and in particular Hubl's exploration of two main issues: 1. bringing Presence/Awakening into daily life and 2. the necessity of collective (or inter-subjective) forms of spiritual practice.  

This dialog is part of a series Terry Patten is leading called Beyond Awakening: The Future of Spiritual Exploration.  Thanks to Terry Patten & his crew for putting this together.

Click this link to open the site--from there click the play button (or you can download it).